“The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you’ll go.” – Dr. Seuss

After a conversation with Victor Acquista, I decided it was time to discuss a subject on which I have a few opinions and preferences yet no knowledge of how to actualize.(Emphasis on opinions and preferences.)

As a reader, I love a good book. As the years go by and the more I read, I like to think my reading sophistication increases.  Books I read as a teen and young adult no longer capture my attention. Maybe it’s because I got what I wanted from them? Maybe it’s because I’ve read enough I can now discern the difference between well written and poorly written? Maybe. The point is, through experience, I have determined what engages my attention and what does not. I know what I like to read. 

About ten years ago, my daughter introduced me to Audible. I was reluctant and didn’t see the point. I had a Kindle and had reduced the amount of physical books I owned, which is anathema to my love of shelves and shelves full of books. I often thought my dream home would be a large library. Reality revised that dream. Over the years, and several cross-country moves, I discovered packing, unpacking and hauling books to be tedious and time consuming. Kindle solved that problem. I could read, why listen? Reading is a quiet activity. Then I discovered listening to books while doing boring mundane chores like laundry, dishes and commuting. 

I’m hooked. I’m also a snob. In much the same way I refuse to slog through a poorly written book, I also refuse to listen to one that is poorly narrated.

As a consumer of stories, I have the choice to read, or listen to a book. If I put it down, it’s because I simply can’t get lost in the story. A poorly written book is on the writer. I’m less certain who to blame for a poor narration. Who chooses the narrator? I’m certain the cost is a factor. Perhaps the publisher decides? Victor’s experience leads me to believe the choice is not always under the writer’s control.

Perry Palin has shared some insight into the publishing and marketing process of writing. The process is not for the dreamer hoping someday their fairy godmother will hand them a royalty check. Adding narration to the process is the superhero level of  publishing. 

Yet, readers care nothing about this. They want a good book and a good narration. 

A crap narrator can do a lot of harm to the writer. So how does a writer ensure a competent narrator performs their book? I don’t know. 

As a reader, I prefer the writer to narrate their own work. There is a depth only the author can add. But not every writer can narrate. Second choice is listening to work narrated by a voice actor. This, I assume, is a pricey option for the writer and according to Perry’s accounts of the publishing journey, there are no simple routes to decent book sales, therefore relying on a sub par narrator seems detrimental to this process. 

Personally, should I ever get to a stage where I’m able to consider turning my work in to an audio book, I know I fall into the category of ‘crap narrator’, therefore I will shop for someone else to do the work. 

“Yo! Fairy godmother, get me Luke Daniels!”

That laughter you hear tinkling in the distance? That’s my fairy godmother, telling me I’m a comedian.

Image by Disney of “The Fairy Godmother from Cinderella
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27 responses to “Audio Books”

  1. GD Deckard Avatar

    Here’s a short reading from S.M. Webb’s “Spirited.”
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/Coz2SJGpgeR/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

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    1. Sue Ranscht Avatar

      Hm. So I signed into IG, I can see the woman talking, but the note when I click on the speaker with the x (supposedly meaning mute) says “This video has no sound”.

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      1. Sandy Randall Avatar

        She made noise for me… she says Happy Caturday 😂

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  2. GD Deckard Avatar

    Listening to something I’m writing is one way to get a feel for how it “sounds.” I use the Microsoft Word Press reader and I’m pretty sure I’d get more from a better program.
    Anybody have a text-to-voice reader program that they can recommend?

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    1. Sandy Randall Avatar

      Natural Reader is good but you have to purchase a premium service for the good voices.
      I use Dabble Writer to write my work, also requires a subscription for all the bells n whistles but I like it and it’s voice choices … just wish their Asian voices were better

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    2. Sue Ranscht Avatar

      I’m really turned off by digital readers. They lack a sense of dramatic or comic timing, or of any emotion, actually. Or understanding of what they’re reading. So I read my own stuff out loud to hear whether it flows the way I want it to. If I stumble, I know I have work to do. Maybe my theatre training, including accents and dialects, helped. That, and decades of reading children’s books (and classics like LotR, and anything by Mark Twain or Jonathon Swift, for example) out loud to children. Of course I do voices. 🙂

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      1. Sandy Randall Avatar

        Sue, I’m not crazy about digital readers either, but like GD, I need to hear my words read back to me. A digital reader is all I have available. Reading outloud to myself annoys me. I’m a terribly boring narrator with a stuffy voice. I also don’t seem to annunciate well either. I know, it’s sad a digital reader can do better ….

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  3. sootfoot5 Avatar

    I used to read constantly. Now I can read short stories, but I fall asleep when I attempt to read a novel unless it is one I’ve read many times before and I’m reading it to study how an author crafted something (or I just love it). When this aspect of my life hit, devastation doesn’t even cover it. But I just can’t do it anymore. Now writing, that is different. Writing is the active pursuit while, for me anyway, reading is the passive.

    And then I met Libravox. Not as professional as Audible, but SO much cheaper. Some readers are great, some are trying hard. It entertained.

    I worked my way up to Audible which in some ways was the same. Some readers disappoint despite the high price tag but when it hits, WOW! If you haven’t yet listened to, “A Prayer for Owen Meany,” I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it. It use everything reading it for the first time was in your head, and more.

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  4. Sue Ranscht Avatar

    I’ve avoided audio books for fear of bad narration. I had to Google Luke Daniels, and found an interview he did so I could hear his voice. He says he welcomes author input, but can work without it if he has to. He does acknowledge an audio book should have the exact text the author wrote, but if the author hasn’t stipulated the character of the voices, the finished work will be the voice actor’s interpretation of the author’s work. Is that what I want to hear? Or would I rather read it and hear my own interpretation in my head?

    He made me think of my son’s request that I not read the Harry Potter series out loud to my day care kids when he could hear it. I had read the first two out loud to him when he was younger and he’d read the rest to himself. By the time I was reading to the younger kids, he had his own version of the character’s voices in his head and mine didn’t match. I totally understand that.

    But it’s not just voices. It’s the drama, too. Jurassic Park has some of the most suspenseful, exciting scenes that move forward so quickly, I had a group of elementary school kids on the edge of their seats when I read it to them before the first movie came out. And they all liked the book better than the movie.

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    1. Sandy Randall Avatar

      I’m at the point where I carefully select which audio books I listen to, because I want an enjoyable experience.
      Luke Daniels is the reason I explored Kevin Hearnes work. I got the first book as a daily suggestion by audible.
      While Luke reads all of Kevin’s work and does a fantastic job … not all of Kevin’s work interests me.
      I also listened to Luke read Scott Meyers “Off to be a Wizard “ series. I wouldn’t read those books. The writing on its own wouldn’t keep me interested. Luke’s portrayal did that.
      Your sons wish with Harry Potter series is how it went with me and my Dad with Tolkien’s work.
      He read the Hobbit and I took the Fellowship of the Rings out of his hand and said, you read to slow. At the age I am now … I sort of regret that. I love listening to my Dad read out loud. I was an impatient kid.

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      1. Sue Ranscht Avatar

        I remember my dad reading us Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, and enjoying it tremendously. The imagery was vivid and his reading was a performance.

        Although my son started reading at 2 and a half, he was happy to have me read to him till he was about 10 — in addition to all the reading he did for himself. But by the time he was ten, we were exploring things like Forest Gump, and all things Michael Crichton, lol. (Some surprisingly great read alouds: Uncle Tom’s Cabin and Robinson Crusoe, neither of which I had read before. Great fun reads: anything by Roald Dahl. A surprisingly horrible one we both lost interest in after a chapter and a half: Treasure Island. I imagine that would be easier read silently. It’s just sooooo dense and has no sense of the music of the language.)

        I’ve read The Hobbit and LotR out loud twice, once when I had upper elementary school kids in day care and once to my best friend when we were in our mid-20s, long before the movies. She’s dyslexic, but I wanted her to have those stories in her life experience. It turned out that’s what convinced her to work hard to read other books. When audio books came out, she became a big fan. Now, almost 50 years later, she devours them. Definitely has her favorite narrators, as well as those she’ll avoid.

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        1. victoracquista Avatar
          victoracquista

          It seems many of us have happy memories of being read to when we were young and also happy experiences reading to children. I always make it a point to read to my grandchildren when I visit them. I think I enjoy it every bit as much as I think they do.
          I used to read to my wife when we were dating and early in our marriage. That practice seems to have dropped away. Stimulated by this conversation, I read to her last night from one of my favorites, “The Little Prince.” She said, “Hey, you already read this to me.” I continued anyway and it was enjoyable as always.

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          1. Sue Ranscht Avatar

            Brylan’s dad and I used to read to each other, too. It brought back warm memories to hear you’ve enjoyed doing that with your wife. I’m happy our conversation inspired you to begin that again. You must have left her with strong impressions to have her remember hearing you read The Little Prince before.

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            1. victoracquista Avatar
              victoracquista

              I hope they are good strong impressions ;)!

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        2. mimispeike Avatar
          mimispeike

          Treasure Island is one of my favorites. I’ve read it many times. I’ll have to read it again with your comment in mind.

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  5. victoracquista Avatar
    victoracquista

    Sandy, thanks for the name check and your post. I did forty podcast episodes, most of which involved me reading an excerpt of something I had written or something a featured author had written. I did a lot of research into book narration, even paid for a course on all aspects of recording and editing and what’s needed for production quality. I invested in a decent mic and converted a closet into a sound-deadened recording space. I even considered putting samples on audible to solicit bids (one of the options for narration is a matching program for narrators and people looking to have something narrated which is usually an author or publisher.) In the end, I decided not to pursue it because to really put out a good product requires more effort than I was willing to do. I though about pairing up with another author who is a sound engineer and thought I would do the narration and he could handle all the technical aspects (there are many required for audible and you’ve got to meet their production specs. I’m glad that I decided against doing it alone or with an associate. I’ll stick to writing.

    There are other options besides Audible, both human and AI. Quality varies considerably. In recent times, the best audio book that I listened to was “The Lost Apothecary.” The story was quite good, but the two narrators brought it to life in ways reading the book could not. The end result was superlative. No hyperbole.

    I’ve gotten to spend some time with the author, Sarah Penner, and she is delightful. Her publisher involved her in the narrator selection process. As I recall, there were five or so samples that Sarah was given the option to choose from. She had some trusted friends and family offer their opinions as well and she wound up weighing their recommendations over her own. The result is top notch. I’ve recommended the book, specifically the audio version, to several people. I know I’m not alone in high praise for the end result.

    Sarah’s experience seems to me to be ideal. My own experience has been at the other extreme. I specifically disparage any potential readers from purchasing either of the two narrated books that my publisher produced for my two-book series. I was never consulted beyond a request (demand) from my publisher to provide a lengthy pronunciation guide. In spite of this effort (about 20 hours of my time), the narrator mispronounced countless words, even words like Taos, Jung, synchronicity, and many others. Worse, she completely mischaracterized two very important characters. She also had pressured speech such that I had to listen to the narration at .9x speed. A different narrator was used for the second book. I couldn’t even listen to the entire book, especially because she also completely mischaracterized some important characters in her voice portrayals. In both instances, a simple conversation with me about the characters could have prevented this.

    The end result, from my perspective, is two audio books that do not do justice to the written word. Is this a reflection on me? From the consumer’s mind, if they don’t like the end result, they aren’t likely to recommend it to others. I put the blame on my publisher. There is no comfort in having my novels out in crappy audio books. Live and learn. If I land another book contract, I’ll try to negotiate some guarantee for input on an audio book.

    A well-narrated book can be a real treat. It reminds me of my mother reading to me when I was young. She did a great job mixing different voices or accents to let me know which characters were speaking. A poorly-narrated book is a waste of money. I do think audio books make a lot of sense because they can be listened to while driving, walking, exercising, doing household chores, and the like. The few things I’ve read about the market for audio all say it is expected to grow. My strong preference remains an actual physical book. I’ve got a Kindle with a library of books. I almost never use it.

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    1. Sandy Randall Avatar

      Victor your experience with audiobooks from all angles is extremely valuable to readers and writers.
      From our earlier conversation I had an inkling how convoluted the process was. I’m grateful for your comments here.
      As to your first book, I agree the mispronunciations were a bit annoying as a reader, but as someone who has worked alongside people who use English as a second language, I’ve learned to mentally skip those faux pas. I found that the strength of your storytelling overcame the narrators foibles.
      The second book. No the narrator did not have a handle on your writing, the pace of the novel nor the correct tone. I couldn’t listen either and will read the book myself.
      What you discovered regarding self narration, I did as well However being a crap narrator myself I didn’t go as far as you did.
      Cue Luke Daniels 😂
      I also like Jeremy Irons and Neil Gaiman.
      Like you I’ll stick to writing…

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    2. curtisbausse Avatar

      Thanks for that report, Victor, it’s very useful. It confirms my own experience too. The publisher of my first novel paid for the narration but I had no say in the matter. The reading was fine but the accents were a bit odd for characters living in France. When I tried myself, I understood how difficult it is to do accents, even without 40 years in France to make you forget them. For that reason, and the technical problems I ran into, I decided not to pursue that route. But the cost of narration is prohibitive. For the moment anyway – one can always hope that will change.

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  6. Perry Palin Avatar
    Perry Palin

    I tried audiobooks when I had a long commute into the city. They weren’t for me. I do prefer to hear most poetry, rather than to read it.

    One of my writing groups in pre-pandemic days would meet occasionally with another group from a town to the north. One of the members of the other group gave an animated and engaging presentation about audiobooks, and how he would make his fortune on them, even though his print sales were low. He was listening to the tapes of professional readers to choose someone for the work. He was putting some money into this. You have to spend money to make money, right? It didn’t pan out for him. He couldn’t overcome the same marketing challenges with his audiobooks as with his print books.

    The writing group member had one thing right, as does Victor in his reply to this post, the voice has to be right for the material. Garrison Keillor had a successful live radio show in St. Paul, Minnesota for many years, broadcast in front of a live theatre audience. It was a sellout every week. We attended the show in person a number of times and listened on the radio to his “News From Lake Wobegon” on Saturday evenings. He had a great voice to tell his folksy small town Midwestern stories. Meanwhile, when our writing groups meet and read our efforts, it’s a real amateur hour. Some of us are dreadful readers of even our own words.

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  7. victoracquista Avatar
    victoracquista

    So right about Garrison Keillor. What an incredible voice, and a darn good show! I’m also a fan of the old radio drama broadcasts. They’ve made a comeback with podcasting and provide a level of enjoyment beyond what you get in an audiobook. When the words reference a creaking door, you just hear the sound. Sound effects enhance the enjoyment for me. The award winning podcast, “Girl in Space” is outstanding in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBI8rI3P4Xs&list=PL_gULX-2PQU4dq5JMg-aN6qWlngC8N8he

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    1. Sandy Randall Avatar

      Looking forward to this podcast! I listened to the beginning … I’ve needed something to listen to on my way to work. This fits the bill. While I enjoy the radio and music, sometimes I want a story.

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      1. victoracquista Avatar
        victoracquista

        I sent the YouTube link, but it’s available on all the platforms. I hope you enjoy it.

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        1. Sandy Randall Avatar

          All set up on You Tube and ready for a listen😁

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  8. mimispeike Avatar
    mimispeike

    Audio books are not for me, personally. The books I mostly buy would not be on audio book, not the popular taste. Also, I like to make notes in the margins, or have an ebook open on my screen and make notes in a word doc. I will follow some of these links and see what I think, in general.

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  9. Sandy Randall Avatar

    “The books I mostly buy would not be on audio book, not the popular taste.” Mimi, your comment here compliments Sue’s observation about reading ‘Treasure Island’ out loud. Perhaps some writing is meant to be pure literature, rather than orally conveyed. For instance, some written tales translate well to the big screen, while others do not. Perhaps writing or even story telling can be compared to the serving of wine. Some wines are better tasted when room temperature while others should be chilled. Some writing is more cerebral and requires quiet reflection rather than audibly entertaining. You have given me an angle to consider.

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  10. Sandy Randall Avatar

    I just got this in my inbox … I like her information and highlighting yet another narrator. I also like her insight on good and bad narration. I also agree with her comment about being a ‘luddite’ in regard to AI narrator. I happily join that camp. For me an AI narrator works if I just need a bit of my own work read to me. If I am listening for entertainment … NO. Correct me if I’m wrong, but at the moment I believe audible only uses human readers. I hope they don’t change that.

    https://vweisfeld.com/?p=10289&unapproved=16592&moderation-hash=ca3dcbf777f4dcef6dbc4bd27410ea15#comment-16592

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    1. GD Deckard Avatar

      Yup. That’s all I use a narrator for -to hear what I’ve just written. The purpose is simply to translate the story from one medium to another. That lets me “hear” what I might want to change. My daughter, however, loves to have her romance novels read by human audio readers.

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